On September 30, François Sorel met with Isabelle Bordry, founder of Retency, Cédric Ingrand, general director of Heavyweight Studio, and Philippe Dewost, strategic advisor at Jolt Capital, president of Phileos, and co-founder of Wanadoo. They joined the program Tech & Co, a daily show on BFM Business, to discuss various topics related to the technology industry. During the episode, the participants explored the influence of John Ternus on Apple's strategy. Ternus, a former executive at Apple, played a key role in shaping the company's product development and innovation direction. His contributions are often cited in discussions about Apple's long-term vision and leadership decisions. The conversation also touched on recent advancements regarding Apple's connected screen, the HomePad. This device represents Apple's push into the smart home and connected entertainment market, aiming to integrate seamlessly with other Apple products and services. The discussion highlighted the potential impact of the HomePad on consumer technology trends. Additionally, the group addressed Google's decision to keep Android closed to competing AI technologies. This move has raised questions about competition in the AI space and the future of open-source platforms. The episode underscored the ongoing debates around innovation, market control, and the balance between openness and proprietary development in the tech sector. The program Tech & Co airs Monday through Thursday and is available as a podcast for those who wish to listen to the discussions at a later time.